tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post111399719083917647..comments2023-11-11T10:08:51.163+11:00Comments on Vieux Cordelier: Communism and ViolenceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1148130622739263782006-05-20T23:10:00.000+10:002006-05-20T23:10:00.000+10:00Johnno,A revolution is not an end in itself, it is...Johnno,<BR/><BR/>A revolution is not an end in itself, it is a means to an end.<BR/><BR/>From your comment, I gather that you are in favour of a fairer distribution of wealth and income.<BR/><BR/>The questions you should be looking at are:<BR/>(1) What type of ecomony are we living in now? (My answer is Capitalist)<BR/>(2) What type of economy would be better for the majority of people? (My Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12277914868761589104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1118278357700127562005-06-09T10:52:00.000+10:002005-06-09T10:52:00.000+10:00Pat, Pat, wherefore art thou, Pat?One more thing, ...Pat, Pat, wherefore art thou, Pat?<BR/><BR/>One more thing, Pat: You said <I>"Well many others see the yanks interests as our interests."</I> Well, Pat, you might like to <A HREF="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8191.htm" REL="nofollow"><I><B>read this</B></I></A> before being so sure that hanging onto America's coat tails is the way to go.The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1117304621074062642005-05-29T04:23:00.000+10:002005-05-29T04:23:00.000+10:00Pat, you dissapoint me. You dismiss Chomsky and Vi...Pat, you dissapoint me. You dismiss Chomsky and Vidal but you don't mention why. Is their research faulty? Are the facts on which they base their commentary false? Why do you dismiss them? Which of their books have you read and why do you dismiss them? What about the other books in my book list - do you dismiss those authors too? And if so, on what basis?<BR/><BR/>Yes, many vets and even theThe Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1116431142032530672005-05-19T01:45:00.000+10:002005-05-19T01:45:00.000+10:00Hi Pat, first thing I've got to say is that is tha...Hi Pat, first thing I've got to say is that is that I'm not Douglas. I'm Gerry. Douglas would have been far more polite. :-)<BR/><BR/><I>I'd like to see your list of 10:1 ratio of capitalist:socialist wars. I am more than willing to learn.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, Pat, maybe you want to start <A HREF="http://diogenes999.blogspot.com/2004/08/war-is-racket.html" REL="nofollow">here.</A> and then, whileThe Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1116293459918032872005-05-17T11:30:00.000+10:002005-05-17T11:30:00.000+10:00Pat, I've got a few problems with what you said:(1...Pat, I've got a few problems with what you said:<BR/><BR/>(1) <I>"unfortunately I am being oppressed by management"</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps one of the socialist or communist unions would better look after your rights as a worker than your managers, being as they are, the bosses' prostitutes. I should know, Pat, I've been a suck-hole for the bosses, Pat. Have you?<BR/><BR/>(2) <I>"Re: violence in The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1114170474059099522005-04-22T21:47:00.000+10:002005-04-22T21:47:00.000+10:00Media control? What's this I keep hearing about t...Media control? What's this I keep hearing about the impending demise of the mainstream (controlled) media, replaced by an online independent media? <BR/><BR/>Police violence: My argument is that until there is absolutely no violence, abusiveness, or provocation by the demonstrators it's crap to point at the police etc and bleat about violence coming from them. I don't know too many soldiers The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1114086142907132112005-04-21T22:22:00.000+10:002005-04-21T22:22:00.000+10:00Gerry,I have just come home from Uni so there will...Gerry,<BR/><BR/>I have just come home from Uni so there will no long-winded answer tonight.<BR/><BR/>The problem with your scenario is who controls the media?<BR/><BR/>We have had demonstrations where the police attacked violently - eg S11.<BR/><BR/>The publication of the photographs from the Ahu Gharib prison did not lead to the overthrow of GWB.<BR/><BR/>Just a few random thoughts before I go Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12277914868761589104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1114042934112016772005-04-21T10:22:00.000+10:002005-04-21T10:22:00.000+10:00I guess what I'm asking is, Douglas, when will the...I guess what I'm asking is, Douglas, when will there ever be a revolution utterly committed to non-violence, NO MATTER WHAT?<BR/><BR/>Imagine the media impact of police/military beating up on people doing absolutely nothing to provoke it. Imagine the media impact of this being repeated time and again. Surely that would generate huge public sympathy and support for the revolution and huge disgustThe Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1114042871474839932005-04-21T10:21:00.000+10:002005-04-21T10:21:00.000+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10359164.post-1114008307137947332005-04-21T00:45:00.000+10:002005-04-21T00:45:00.000+10:00It seems my search for a pacifist revolution is no...It seems my search for a pacifist revolution is not yet over, Douglas.The Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884172849865230486noreply@blogger.com